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Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret. Thank you. Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker. Great thread. I have always felt that is a high possibility. Seems to make very good sense. Makes you wonder of other possible planets that were destroyed over our solar system's history.
Venus is Backwards Venus is the only planet in our solar system that spins clockwise. All other planets spin on their axis counter-clockwise. Many theories attempt to explain this but the most interesting is the theory that Venus was impacted by an object, possibly during the period of Late Heavy Bombardment LHB.
And at the speed to make it appear to have no spin, which is what scientists had reported right up until after Tesla, and after their work on scalar technology began in secret, and after they themselves realized that the moon and Venus had no spin, and no magnetic poles. Earth spins on free energy.
Iron core magnet, magnetic poles, and the electric gridline and magnetic lines are like a coil, she's a free energy device. That was actually noted by observation of the solar system. So, nah, don't believe them about their reverse spin. This is from Sumerian creation story, isn't it? Nice presentation. Surely you have more. Please share Stars and flags coming right up. Planet V is the theory of Nasa scientists as indicated in the OP. Tiamat, while also being known as a Babylonian god, I believe is what the Sumerians called Earth.
I think another part of that theory says that Tiamat Earth was the 5th planet and was pushed in during the passing of Nibiru.Where Is The Planet Between Mars And Jupiter?
Perhaps someone with more knowledge can elaborate. Good thought!
It is interesting that there is a line of astoried in a belt and no others down the line! Even today we now have 10 planets say 11 if we take Pluto! No other belts out that way. So what if a planet did blow up or something else came along and smashed it some. I do believe there was a planet there, could be a fence though. Far out there to even concider that idea! As for a gas planet who turned into a star, could be possible!
The planet Phaethon died because of a nuclear war?
Last somehow we were there and blew it up and ended up on Earth. That one would be the worst possible idea but then again so is Adam and Eve. Spike Spiegle.
Hello, thanks for the interesting read. Originally posted by sheepslayer reply to post by Phage.Watch live: Trump, White House task force hold coronavirus briefing. A giant space rock is heading toward Earth, but there's no cause for alarm.
Instead, NASA says, it will whiz harmlessly past our planet, coming as close as This will be the closest Phaethon has come since In the world of astronomy, 6. And it raises the question: How likely is it that some big, scary asteroid out there is on a collision course with our planet?
The answer, astronomers say, is not very — at least during our lifetimes. All were determined not to pose a collision threat. These smaller meteors can cause significant damage. The meter-wide asteroid that slammed into Chelyabinsk, Russia infor example, shattered windows and injured more than 1, people.
If a space rock that big were to smash into Earth, the online Impact Earth asteroid damage calculator indicates that — depending upon factors including its speed and angle of impact — it could create a crater 65 kilometers 40 miles wide and 1 kilometer 0. Dan Durda, a planetary scientist at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, told MACH in an email, adding that the dust and chemicals released into the air as a result of such impact could cause global cooling and "destroy the ozone layer several times over.
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The 5th Planet: Phaeton
David Freeman.Alternate, less common genealogies make him a son of Clymenus by Merope of Helios and Rhode thus a full brother of the Heliadae  or of Helios and Prote . When Phaeton obtains his father's promise to drive the sun chariot as proof, he fails to control it and the Earth is in danger of burning up when Phaeton is killed by a thunderbolt from Zeus to prevent further disaster. Phaethon is also the name of another minor Greek deity, the god of the wandering star Dios the planet Jupiter.
In the version of the myth told by Ovid in the MetamorphosesPhaeton ascends into heaven, the home of his suspected father. His mother Clymene had boasted that his father was the sun-god Helios. However, in Roman mythology the sun-god Helios is adopted again only by his Latin name, which is Sol. Phaeton wanted to drive his chariot of the sun for a day. Helios tried to talk him out of it by telling him that not even Zeus the king of gods would dare to drive it, as the chariot was fiery hot and the horses breathed out flames.
Phaeton was adamant. When the day came, Helios anointed Phaeton's head with magic oil to keep the chariot from burning him. Phaeton was unable to control the fierce horses that drew the chariot as they sensed a weaker hand. I steer against their motions; nor am I Born back by all the current of the skye.
But how cou'd you resist the orbs that roul In adverse whirls, and stem the rapid pole? First it veered too high, so that the earth grew chill. Then it dipped too close, and the vegetation dried and burned. He accidentally turned most of Africa into desert; bringing the blood of the Ethiopians to the surface of their skin, turning it black. But these are trivial ills: whole cities burn, And peopled kingdoms into ashes turn.
Rivers and lakes began to dry up, Poseidon rose out of the sea and waved his trident in anger at the sun, but soon the heat became even too great for him and he dove to the bottom of the sea. Helios, stricken with grief, refused to drive his chariot for days. Finally the other Greek gods persuaded him not to leave the world in darkness. Helios blamed Zeus for killing his son, but Zeus told him there was no other way. Greatly he failed, but greatly he dared.
This story has given rise to two latter-day meanings of "phaeton": one who drives a chariot or coach, especially at a reckless or dangerous speed, and one that would or may set the world on fire.The hypothetical planet was named for Phaethonthe son of the sun god Helios in Greek mythologywho attempted to drive his father's solar chariot for a day with disastrous results and was ultimately destroyed by Zeus.
According to the now-discredited Titius—Bode lawa planet was believed to exist between Mars and Jupiter. After learning of the regular sequence discovered by the German astronomer and mathematician J. Titius —astronomer Johann E.
Bode urged a search for the fifth planet corresponding to a gap in the sequence. However, in astronomer Heinrich W. Olbers proposed that these two discoveries were the fragments of a disrupted planet that had formerly orbited the Sun, and predicted that more of these pieces would be found.
InGerman linguist and retired teacher J. Only in did the well-known Soviet astronomer Sergej Vladirimovich Orlov give it the name Phaeton. Theories regarding the formation of the asteroid belt from the destruction of a hypothetical fifth planet are today collectively referred to as " the disruption theory ".
This theory states that there was once a major planetary member of our Solar System circulating in the present gap between Mars and Jupiter, which was destroyed by one or more of the following hypothetical processes:. InSoviet Russian astronomer I. Putilin suggested that Phaeton was destroyed due to centrifugal forces, giving it a diameter of approximately 6 kilometers and a rotational speed of 2. Eventually, the planet became so distorted that parts of it near its equator were spun off into space.
Outgassing of gases once stored in Phaeton's interior caused multiple explosions, sending material into space and forming asteroid families. However, his theory was not widely accepted. Two years later inOdessan astronomer K. Savchenko suggested that Ceres, Pallas, Juno, and Vesta were not fragments of Phaeton, but rather its former moons. Phaeton had an additional fifth satellite, assumed to be the size of Ceres, orbiting near the planet's Hill sphereand thus more subject to gravitational perturbations from Jupiter.
As a result, the fifth satellite became tidally detached and orbited the Sun for millions of years afterward, making periodic close misses with Phaeton that slowly increased its velocity. Once the escaped satellite re-entered Phaeton's Hill sphere, it collided with the planet at high speed, shattering it while Ceres, Pallas, Juno, and Vesta assumed heliocentric orbits.
Simulations showed that for such a Ceres-sized body to shatter Phaeton, it would need to be travelling at nearly 20 kilometers per second. Today, the Phaeton hypothesis has been superseded by the accretion model. Some scientists and non-scientists continue to advocate for the existence and destruction of a Phaeton-like planet. Zecharia Sitchin suggested that the goddess known to the Sumerians as Tiamat in fact relates to a planet that was destroyed by a rogue planet known as Nibirucreating both Earth and the asteroid belt.
The astronomer and author Tom Van Flandern held that Phaeton which he called "Planet V", with V representing the Roman numeral for five and not to be confused with the other postulated former fifth planet not attributed to the formation of the asteroid belt exploded through some internal mechanism.
In his "Exploded Planet Hypothesis ", he lists possible reasons for its explosion: a runaway nuclear reaction of uranium in its core, a change of state as the planet cooled down creating a density phase change, or through continual absorption of heat in the core from gravitons.
Van Flandern even suggested that Mars itself may have been a moon of Planet V, due to its craters hinting to exposure to meteorite storms and its relatively low density compared to the other inner planets. The film also has numerous references to ancient astronauts. Several works of fiction feature a supposed planet sometimes named Phaeton existing in the past between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, which somehow became the Solar System's asteroid belt.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Hypothetical former Solar System planet. For other uses, see Phaeton. Cambridge University Press.The planet Phaeton is the name given to a hypothetical object once orbiting between Mars and Jupiter that, in the early days of the Solar System, was destroyed by some event.
The resultant debris then became the Asteroid Belt. Back at the start of the 19th century, the Asteroid Belt had yet to be discovered. Then, ina Catholic priest named Giuseppe Piazzi, who was also an astronomer, discovered the largest asteroid, Ceres. As it was generally believed at the time that there was a planet orbiting between Mars and Jupiter, Ceres was believed to fit the bill. Then, the following year, German astronomer Heinrich Olbers pictured here discovered another body with a similar orbit, the asteroid Pallas.
From this, Olbers deduced that these two bodies were actually fragments of the planet that was thought to be between Mars and Jupiter and it had been destroyed in some way. The subsequent discovery of two more asteroids, Juno and Vesta, seemed to vindicate this.
This was the name of a character in Greek mythology and means "shining one". He was the son of the sun god, Helios, who, it was thought, rode his solar chariot across the sky every day, causing the light and heat that humans needed to survive. One day, Helios granted Phaeton's wish to have a go at driving the chariot himself.
However, he was unable to control the horses, everything went wrong and Earth was in danger of being burnt to a crisp. The solution? Zeus killed him with a thunderbolt. Olbers' idea was christened the "disruption theory" and, naturally, several more theories were then put forward to explain the planet's demise. The obvious idea is that it was hit by some other large object. One candidate for this role is another hypothetical body - the companion star to our Sun, Nemesis.
Finally, it could simply have approached too close to Jupiter, being torn asunder by the giant planet's immense gravity. If you've read this site's page on the Asteroid Belt, you'll know that the disruption theory eventually fell out of favour, to be replaced with another, called the "accretion theory". It is now thought that the Asteroid Belt is all that remains of the "protoplanetary disc", that originally orbited the Sun prior to the formation of the planets.
It never managed to coalesce into a planet simply because Jupiter's gravitational effect stopped it. Facebook Comments Have your say about what you just read! Leave me a comment in the box below.
Guide To The Universe on Facebook.Greek "gods" and planets. Ancient Greeks were known to observe planets quite diligently, because they believed that "gods" traversed the skies and navigated between stars in cosmos. Planets are quite easy to distinguish from stars, because they "move" with respect to the "fixed" pattern of stars and constellations that ancient Greeks called "cosmos". The word cosmos means "pattern" or "ornament" in ancient Greek.
Names that ancient Greeks gave to planets in our solar system are still identifiable today. There has never been any doubt which planet was which. Phaeton - Son of Helios Son of Sun Greeks knew that some time ago there existed a planet called Phaetonthat does not exist today, because it perished in a flash.
In ancient Greek the meaning of the word Phaeton is "shiny", "luminous", "source of light". Words "photon" and "Phaeton" originate from the same ancient Greek root. Phaeton was considered by Greeks "a son of Helios" son of Sundue to its extreme brightness in comparison to all other "gods". The name and status given to Phaeton confirms that Phaeton was one of the brightest and the most prominent objects in the sky at night.
As a "Son of Sun" Phaeton was as prominent during the night as Sun was during the day. There is no possibility that Phaeton was an asteroid, meteorite or some cometary debris.
Phaeton was definitely a planet. Witness report? When Phaeton perished following a flash that some people saw - everyone in Greece knew about it. Absence of Phaeton must have been really difficult not to notice by people who remembered seeing it all their lives. Plato one of the greatest philosophers of all time was aware that the belief that "Phaeton was destroyed by lightning" introduced by religion to explain the disappearance of Phaeton was just a clumsy interpretation of the real cosmic event.
Imagine generations of people praying daily to their "god" all their lives finding out that it disappeared in a flash one day. They could no longer pray to this god, couldn't they? To them, the planet that vanished was as real as sunshine The story of Phaeton is one of the the best witness accounts of any cosmic event in human history.
Documents can be altered, mistranslated and destroyed, but information carried through cultural traditions, language and heritage is very difficult to alter. Material evidence Some people may consider the story of the planet Phaeton perishing in a flash to be a result of collective hallucination or stupidity of ancient Greeks.
However, there exists material evidence that a planet has indeed exploded in our Solar System After a planet explodes - the center of mass of all debris should still circle the Sun along a trajectory similar to trajectory of the planet before explosion.
The center of mass of the "asteroid belt" that exists between Mars and Jupiter is near Ceres, the largest asteroid that orbits the Sun between Mars and Jupiter. Since explosion is a process that creates similar energy in all directions, the mass distribution of the debris in the resulting "belt" should be similar in the axial and radial directions of the "belt orbit".
This is due to the elementary conservation of momentum principle. Interestingly, the "thickness" of the "asteroid belt" between Mars and Jupiter is similar in axial and radial directions. Significant axial size of the asteroid belt directly contradicts the vigorously defended dogma that the belt is a remnant of "protoplanetary disc" that formed after formation of our Sun.He was also identified him with planet Saturn aster Kronion.
According to some Phaethon was a star-born son of Eos the Dawn who was carried off by the goddess Aphrodite. Others say he was a son of Helios who was struck down by Zeus when he lost control of the chariot of the sun. Hesiod, Theogony ff trans.
And after these Erigenia [Eos] bare the star Eosphorus Dawn-bringerand the gleaming Astra Stars with which heaven is crowned. Hesiod, Theogony ff : "Then [Eos the Dawn], embraced by [a mortal] Kephalos Cephalusshe engendered a son, glorious Phaethon, the strong, a man in the likeness of the immortals; and, while he still had the soft flower of the splendour of youth upon him, still thought the light thoughs of a child, Aphrodite, the lover of laughter, swooped down and caught him away and set him in her holy temple to be her nocturnal temple-keeper, a divine spirit Daimon Dios [i.
Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca 1. Aldrich Greek mythographer C2nd A. Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca 3. Sandokos left Syria for Kilikia Cilicia. Pausanias, Description of Greece 1. Jones Greek travelogue C2nd A. Hemera Day [i. Eos the dawn] carrying away Kephalos Cephaluswho was in love with him. His son was Phaethon, afterwards ravished by Aphrodite.
Such is the tale told by Hesiod, among others, in his poem on women. Pseudo-Hyginus, Astronomica 2. Grant Roman mythographer C2nd A. It remains for us to speak of the five stars which many have called wandering, and which the Greeks call Planeta. The second star [i. Eratosthenes [Greek writer C3rd B. Many have written about him--how he foolishly drove his father's chariot and set fire to the earth.
Because of this he was struck with a thunderbolt by Jove [Zeus], and fell into the river Eridanus, and was conveyed by Sol [Helios] to the constellations. Cicero, De Natura Deorum 2. Rackham Roman rhetorician C1st B. Below this [Phainon, the planet Saturn] and nearer to the earth moves the Star Stella of Jupiter, called Phaethon the Blazingwhich completes the same circuit of the twelve signs of the zodiac in twelve years, and makes the same variations during its course as the star of Saturnus [Kronos].
This regularity therefore in the Stars Stellaethis exact punctuality throughout all eternity notwithstanding the great variety of their courses, is to me incomprehensible without rational intelligence and purpose. And if we observe these attributes in the Stars Stellaewe cannot fail to enrol even them among the number of the gods.
Nonnus, Dionysiaca 5. Rouse Greek epic C5th A. The sixth he made an image of Zeus [i. A complete bibliography of the translations quoted on this page.